K1200S Top Speed

[dwayne]

Do you all feel unsafe at those speeds?

I felt really good...really I don't think I trully felt unsafe in the moment...but I was a bit scared as my head has been filled my whole life with "motorcycles are so dangerous!"

I know it takes longer to slow at those speeds, and people don't realize how fast we are going at those speeds...but I see all these videos of people wizzing through traffic...to the untrained eye it looks crazy and dangerious...but all things considered, do you really think speeding like that is dangerous?

Not until something in front of you happens, say a mini van packed with some family sees you coming that fast and tries to get out of the way, and in doing so loses control and someone is hurt, or worse. If you ride at those speeds on public roads, you're not really thinking. It's people that ride like that, that my insurance has to pay for and because of ipeople that ride like that, many communites, and governments are looking to ban motorcycles outright. Just think though, if you get killed riding at those speeds on public roads, at least you'll get a Darwin award for your trouble.

And thanks to the fine work of the "Loud pipes save lives" crowd, and the SQUDS...


http://www.mrf.org/articles/1998/chicago.html

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9801E5DC1339F933A05755C0A960958260

http://www.topix.com/forum/city/delray-beach-fl/T2EMDNAKJ63NAIU56


Oh, and although this is joe average talking on a forum

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070923163459AAYzRUh

So, to those of you that like to ride like in this way on public roads, welcome to the future. No more motorcycles, no more riding. It won't happen overnight, but once enough people are killed on and by motorcyclists acting like idiots we can all kiss our collective motorcycling asses goodbye. Sorry to be a downer and the voice of common sense but it's this kind of mentality that most non motorcyclists think that we are like: no concern for anyone else's safety or our own. We represent less then, way less then 10% of the driving public, and although we do vote, so does the people who witness motorcyclists driving like this, and there are more of them then there are of us.

[caratz]

Amen...

[spnorm]

Do you all feel unsafe at those speeds?

I felt really good...really I don't think I trully felt unsafe in the moment...but I was a bit scared as my head has been filled my whole life with "motorcycles are so dangerous!"

I know it takes longer to slow at those speeds, and people don't realize how fast we are going at those speeds...but I see all these videos of people wizzing through traffic...to the untrained eye it looks crazy and dangerious...but all things considered, do you really think speeding like that is dangerous?

Not until something in front of you happens, say a mini van packed with some family sees you coming that fast and tries to get out of the way, and in doing so loses control and someone is hurt, or worse. If you ride at those speeds on public roads, you're not really thinking. It's people that ride like that, that my insurance has to pay for and because of ipeople that ride like that, many communites, and governments are looking to ban motorcycles outright. Just think though, if you get killed riding at those speeds on public roads, at least you'll get a Darwin award for your trouble.

And thanks to the fine work of the "Loud pipes save lives" crowd, and the SQUDS...

So, to those of you that like to ride like in this way on public roads, welcome to the future. No more motorcycles, no more riding. It won't happen overnight, but once enough people are killed on and by motorcyclists acting like idiots we can all kiss our collective motorcycling asses goodbye. Sorry to be a downer and the voice of common sense but it's this kind of mentality that most non motorcyclists think that we are like: no concern for anyone else's safety or our own. We represent less then, way less then 10% of the driving public, and although we do vote, so does the people who witness motorcyclists driving like this, and there are more of them then there are of us.

WTF have you bought a high performance motorcycle if you don't approve of using the performance?

I stick rigidly to the limit in 30 and 40 zones, but anywhere else I ride as fast as conditions allow me to do (relatively) safely.

[dwayne]

Do you all feel unsafe at those speeds?

I felt really good...really I don't think I trully felt unsafe in the moment...but I was a bit scared as my head has been filled my whole life with "motorcycles are so dangerous!"

I know it takes longer to slow at those speeds, and people don't realize how fast we are going at those speeds...but I see all these videos of people wizzing through traffic...to the untrained eye it looks crazy and dangerious...but all things considered, do you really think speeding like that is dangerous?

Not until something in front of you happens, say a mini van packed with some family sees you coming that fast and tries to get out of the way, and in doing so loses control and someone is hurt, or worse. If you ride at those speeds on public roads, you're not really thinking. It's people that ride like that, that my insurance has to pay for and because of ipeople that ride like that, many communites, and governments are looking to ban motorcycles outright. Just think though, if you get killed riding at those speeds on public roads, at least you'll get a Darwin award for your trouble.

And thanks to the fine work of the "Loud pipes save lives" crowd, and the SQUDS...

So, to those of you that like to ride like in this way on public roads, welcome to the future. No more motorcycles, no more riding. It won't happen overnight, but once enough people are killed on and by motorcyclists acting like idiots we can all kiss our collective motorcycling asses goodbye. Sorry to be a downer and the voice of common sense but it's this kind of mentality that most non motorcyclists think that we are like: no concern for anyone else's safety or our own. We represent less then, way less then 10% of the driving public, and although we do vote, so does the people who witness motorcyclists driving like this, and there are more of them then there are of us.

WTF have you bought a high performance motorcycle if you don't approve of using the performance?

I stick rigidly to the limit in 30 and 40 zones, but anywhere else I ride as fast as conditions allow me to do (relatively) safely.

Why I bought the bike is none of your business, but driving like a fool on public roads isn't one of them.
Are you actually justifying traveling at over 3 times the legal limit on public roads? Do it on a track sure, but public roads? We all ride faster then we should, but 280 K/hr is beyond, way beyond acceptable.
You wanna ride like that, maybe you'll be okay, not end up killing yourself, but all it will take is one person, to see you ride like this. Remember, the non motorcyclists vote too. This isn't just about you, your riding habits effects everyone else on two wheels, and it's not positive.

[jewilson]

Relax there Dwayne, we're all over the age of 21. None of us are crazed teenagers we just having some fun on deserted roads. Also, none of us care why you purchased your K bike or how you chose ride it. However, why do you feel the need start preaching to us, if bother you that much maybe you should find another subject on the forum that fits your convictions.


GPS units are very accurate in calculating speed. The timing accuracy of a GPS systems are so good it’s used by the telecom industry as a master timing source for clocking-timing high speed optical systems.


Cheers

[SHIVA]

hold your horses... that's all of you..

at no point, under any condition, with no exception to this rule, a member can impose his views on another member.

we don't care if you do 890 miles per hour on public roads, have two jet engines bungeed to the back of your bike and ride this rocket with a family of 4, with 2 cats and 3 dogs.... (george carlin would be proud) Just make sure you video it with your cell phone and put it on YouTube!

it's none of my business and certainly none of the business of any of our members lecturing others on road safety or alike.

next time this topic comes up, all such posts (lecturing others) will be deleted and the member either banned if under 100 posts, or given a warning if above.

I hope that this is very clear.....

We buy kick ass bikes to kick ass. If you have a problem with this point, please don't frequent our very exclusive club.

Thanks! S

[SHIVA]

dwayne asked to be removed as a member and I granted his request...

my aim since day one has been to create a web community unlike any other. and I think we have been extremely successful in fulfilling that vision. the very last thing I ever want is to have members creating a fundamentalist attitude toward riding and killing the fun of keyboard jokying...

we now resume normal operation... S

[jewilson]

You're the man.......

We just want'a have fun............

[spnorm]

So, about this 890mph rocket conversion

[SHIVA]

we need a good photoshoped pic, but it's something like this, with cats and dogs and some chickens added, plus two jet engines ...







I didn't realize that there is a technique in riding 4up on a bike. the mommy sits at the end and the kids in between...

Can you find the kid in this one?

[CamNeelyphile]

Yikes!!
I read this thread earlier today and thought "This may turn into an all out war or someone will get banned." You could smell it in the air.
Good job keeping the peace there "S".

[SHIVA]

well, imagine setting up a community for a go-fast bike and then be reprimanded by people for wanting to go fast... simply unacceptable!!!

just wait until the K1000 comes out and those members start posting on our forum. on a K1000 you can get to 180 in a heartbeat.

S

[Jamie (RIP)]

Too bad Shiva stepped in............I was just getting the pop corn ready ........been a while since we last had a good barney here. And would you believe it, all this under a top speed heading

Seriously though, and I'm speaking for myself, lesson learned.....it's perfectly ok to differ from each other in opinions but state your case and then step back and never ever becomes personnal.

Heck look what happened to me in the centrestand post........I got fried for my view point but it was never personnal.........btw I still say a centrestand does not belong on a K1200S

Thanks Shiva for maintaining the standards/norms/rules that you do

[K1200S Pilot]

I really enjoyed doing Maxton on my KS and am thinking of going back in '08. So, a question for you guys far smarter than I on the electronics of the K1200S; if I go with a dry nitrous installation, in the low 20-40 horsepower range, will the O2 sensor in the exhaust recognize the excess O2 and will the computer automatically enrich the mixture to compensate (which will add that extra horsepower)? If not, I assume it will run far to lean and risk damaging the engine--not a good idea. I'm not looking to build a "make the jump to light speed" bike, and I recognize that shaft drive has an inherent limitation in gearing. Just really want to push it up faster--but safely for the engine--on the one mile run, and figure a plug and play dry nitrous would be a simple and effective way--but I need to know what the bike's computer will think. Any thoughts?

As an aside, I have spent a lot of time in rural Latin America; best I've seen on a motorscooter is a family of six with a pig in a head lock. It was in a pretty rustic city in Bolivia, kids on the tank, kids between dad driving and mom on the back, and mom with the pig in a headlock. Just like an SUV, but different...

No, didn't have my camera!

best to all--

[andy griff]

Why had the police man stopped them in the first place

[SHIVA]

you know the folks who are working on Andy Sills bike for the Bonneville run, where totally focused on high speed runs. they aim is to make the "K" go ultimately close to 250mph on the salt.

I am not sure right now, but I can find out which engine management they used, but with that they were able to totally control the FI.

however they alterations were very extensive. S

[K1200S Pilot]

Shiva, any info would be appreciated, thanks. From what I've read, I look at Andy Sills and the folks supporting him as clearly in the big leagues and doing far more work on the bike that I could ever dream of (or afford!). As a new guy to this, I'm happy with the one mile run at Maxton because I can get there reasonably from Florida, and happy with minor mods to the bike so I can continue to enjoy it for everything else it can do as well. If the stock EFI will compensate for nitrous and give me some more acceleration/speed in the one mile run and not cause a melt down then I'll go for it. I guess I'd summarize it and say I'm looking at the easiest way to push the KS faster then I got in September on the 1 mile course at Maxton, but without major mods. I can't imagine the work needed get to the 250 MPH range; My hat's off to them! best to all--

[jw]

There is NO WAY the stock ecu will compensate for a dry nitrous setup on it's own.

The O2 sensor output isn't used to control fueling except for idle and constant low throttle positions. Certainly not WOT top speed runs.

There are wet nitrous setups that will inject fuel with nitrous to take care of the mixture. My suggestion, seek professional help.

[K1200S Pilot]

JW, thanks for the info. Not what I was hoping to hear of course, but I was afraid that would be the case. Not sure I want to go to the expense for a wet system, I was hoping to get away with an easy solution.... oh well. And I agree completely with your recommendation; as I find out more, if I do pursue it I will most certainly seek professional help. Thanks again--

[srfrag]

I saw 145 on the I 15 North of Las Vegas heading to Utah. The bike was very stable and hardly any buffeting behind the Zero Gravity windscreen. It felt very comfortable and you could tell there was more to be had. At those speeds the closing rate with slower vehicles is a limiting factor.

[theo k12s greece]

hi guys!I am theo from greece and i catch 290 kilometres per hour with my bike.

[K1200S]

I was on the unrestricted Autobahn last year and I hit an INDICATED 178mph at around 9200rpm and the bike was still accelerating, but not as fast as it did from an indicated 160mph upwards. It was 0300 hrs in the morning with no traffic and a full moon. Road, traffic and weather conditions were all clear!

What surprises me about this bike is it's high speed stability. It feels planted, stuck to the road and the imperfections in road surface are one less thing to worry about on the K1200S. The brakes are tremendous but it's its brutal acceleration that really impresses me. If you pin the throttle in top gear above 120mph the bike surges like a jet fighter and just keeps accelerating. Even when I hit 178mph, the bike was edging faster and faster. I slowed down because I approached a heavily wooded area and I was afraid I may find a fur and bloodlined road unconducive to staying upright.

I use my bike's potential whenever road, traffic or weather conditions allow and with respect and consideration for other road users. The one thing I do before every ride is check my tyre pressures and condition. I check for any damage or wear to my tyres before every ride. Tyres affect braking too, not just cornering so always check before you ride.

[caratz]

hi guys!I am theo from greece and i catch 290 kilometres per hour with my bike.

They have radar in Greece ? Or was that abroad ?

[jewilson]

That's nice, but its' all BS with out a GPS speed.

[caratz]

Does it really make a difference ? I couldn't care less either way.

A friend of mine once said "it's much more fun to ride a slow bike fast then a fast bike slow." There is a lot to be said for it on public roads.