!!EXTRA!! K1300S beats 'Busa by a wide margin - Sport Rider

[dqrkstone]

But I could waste the K13 on an R1, fireblade, GSXR1, etc.. Easy.

Maybe you and I should meet up - We can plot some routes on some mixture of roads, majoring on the thinner twisty back roads (where according to all the logic, a lighter bike should shine much much brighter), roads neither of us have graced, and I'd love to see you "waste" the K13S

I heard the same thing from some riders on an 1198, a GSXR 1000, and an R1 - Boy were they surprised and ashamed when we finished! Can one say "my dust?"

[badger]

But I could waste the K13 on an R1, fireblade, GSXR1, etc.. Easy.

Maybe you and I should meet up - We can plot some routes on some mixture of roads, majoring on the thinner twisty back roads (where according to all the logic, a lighter bike should shine much much brighter), roads neither of us have graced, and I'd love to see you "waste" the K13S

I heard the same thing from some riders on an 1198, a GSXR 1000, and an R1 - Boy were they surprised and ashamed when we finished! Can one say "my dust?"

My post I am carefully talking about beating my own time on the alternatives... I'm sure a ton of people on this forum could leave me in the dust.


But remember that I OWN one... I love it. I can waste any (well, lets be honest, "the higher percentage of") supersports riders. My supersports mates are in awe of my riding (inbetween taking the piss out of it...), which got faster on the K13 if anything. Group 1 in trackdays no problem, except all those guys with vans painted with decals of themselves.... . And the occassional abject lesson from someone on a RC 400 or something unlikely...

But, I could "beat myself" on a supersports. No problem.

Thread getting a bit weird! In a race (road, trackday, whatever) supersports win. In "real" riding, which personally I'm not sure what is, the K13 wins. Unless a supersports has the bit between their teeth and is racing on the road, then you are still toast?

Good idea for a ride out - would love too. Very close in London.

[SHIVA]

dqrkstone, The Bike mag article says it best. K13S does beat R1 and Gixxer. Our members need a couple of years of de-programing to let this bit of news sip in. don't take it personally and don't feel like you should ease off on the de-conditioning either. full steam ahead. S

[jewilson]

dqrkstone, The Bike mag article says it best. K13S does beat R1 and Gixxer. Our members need a couple of years of de-programing to let this bit of news sip in. don't take it personally and don't feel like you should ease off on the de-conditioning either. full steam ahead. S

Shiva,

I love my K13S but it anit going to out run a R1 on a road course. It will be a heck of a lot better rode on all types of roads trips, now that you can take to the bank. If you saying it will beat both an R1 and a Gixxer it should lay waist to a S1000RR too. Sanity check please.

[SHIVA]

JW, don't compare S1000RR 2010 to the R1 and Gixxer of 2009 at this time, it has about 20 more HP and weighs basically the same. S1RR is a new type of species, until the Japanese bring their HP rating to 200.

I stick with Bike Mag's test results that gives the nod to 13S over R1 and Gixxer. You can say no all you want! S

[nemesis.ie]

JW, don't compare S1000RR 2010 to the R1 and Gixxer of 2009 at this time, it has about 20 more HP and weighs basically the same. S1RR is a new type of species, until the Japanese bring their HP rating to 200.

I stick with Bike Mag's test results that gives the nod to 13S over R1 and Gixxer. You can say no all you want! S

I have a funny feeling Honda's new VFR could be in the realm of 200hp. It will certainly be interesting to see how it compares to the K bikes.

[SHIVA]

I really dislike the new Honda... its fugly and a BMW knockoff. don't care about it even though I always liked the Blackbird and was curious about its replacement. I do like the Fireblade too, but S1000RR has got it beat.

Jim, regarding K13S and R1. if two pro racers take these bikes to the track to race, the R1 will win. But on the street is a different matter and the Bike mag's article puts the BMW quite a bit ahead of R1. And those guys know their business. S

[Doug]

A question - is it legal to scan and post an article from a bike magazine here ?- A South African magazine did a comparision article on the BMK1300s and the 1400 Kawasaki- They did all the dyno tests etc etc - Im not sure if I can copy and paste it here ?

The 2 jurnos both agreed that on paper the Kawasaki was better than the BM but the one jurno said he would still buy the BM if it was his money but the other one said he would rather have the Kawasaki- I some times wonder how acurate the dyno tests from difnt magazines really are ?

When I bought my BM I rode the 14oo Kawasaki before I paid out my money- it was smoother with a slicker gearbox but some how it doesnt have a soul- the BM just got to me- there is something so special about it I find it hard to put into words

[SHIVA]

comparisons based on value of a bike is not really valid. it should be about the bikes themselves. that's why the Bike mag story and the Sport Rider are so valid. often times reviewers of lesser mags, say well, the BMW is better, but since I can't afford it the nod goes to the other bike. that's bogus reporting! S

[SHIVA]

one more point. what makes this article in the Sport Rider so important is because it's in Sport Rider. If this was just some second rate mag's story, no one would have cared. Bike stories from Bike Mag, which is considered the best moto rag in the world and Sport Rider which iss a major Sport Bike only magazine in the US are very important.

[jewilson]

I really dislike the new Honda... its fugly and a BMW knockoff. don't care about it even though I always liked the Blackbird and was curious about its replacement. I do like the Fireblade too, but S1000RR has got it beat.

Jim, regarding K13S and R1. if two pro racers take these bikes to the track to race, the R1 will win. But on the street is a different matter and the Bike mag's article puts the BMW quite a bit ahead of R1. And those guys know their business. S

Shiva,

There is no comparing an R1, GIXXER, CBR1000RR to the K1300S on the street, the K has it all over the those bikes and I have one, from use-able power to comfort to vendor support the K is better, hands down.

I was taking about racing and that element only. Those bike are race replicas as you know and designed for being race ready (almost)plus being the perfect squid machine. The Blade is a nice bike but I'd stay with the new R1, however if the S1000RR is as good as the marketing claim I'll have to buy one or of there is the new RSV4.

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I do have an issues with the Dyno data and some of the numbers that Sport Rider put out on the K1300s

Rear Wheel Horse like 149 that BS those are number of the K1200S, a 180/55 rear tire.....come-on that what come on an gt.
I don't remember the other ones

[Reward Claim]

I don't understand why people persist in comparing race rep machines with the K bikes at all. Race reps are only truly best on a track where their design has been developed to win races so will beat a K machine with equal riders. Also racing on the road to see which is faster is crazy. There is a fine line between bravery and stupidity. To push modern machines to their performance limits on the public roads in a race will eventually lead to injury or death. If you're out on a run with mates and you finish a stretch of road first doesn't necessarily mean you're a better rider or the bike is the best. You might have been riding like a complete twat and carving up other road users as you check you mirrors to see if your pulling away. That in my book makes you the worst rider. Any fool can go to fast for the conditions. God knows I have .

I regulary ride with my mate who has a ZZR1200. On normal roads (smoothish) he doesn't leave me behind and I don't him on my K12S. We can't stretch either machines potential on the road. (A trip to the Nurburgring is planned ) . The only time I pull some distance is when the road gets rough, which is pretty common here in the UK. I flick the ESA to comfort and carry on swiftly where he has to slow or his ass and wrists take a pounding. BMW designed the bike to be the ultimate road bike and for me it is. I like to enjoy the ride (on the road) and arrive somewhere and marvel at the engineering and not peel myself off a ball busting race rep after 200 yrds of some of the UK finest.

The K bikes do it all on the road, for which they were designed. I see more and more bike magazines acknowledging BMWs great engineering for the streets. It's been hard for them to accept as the UK buys the more sport bikes percentage wise than any other country. The british bike press would put down most BMW bikes with things like the 'Busa makes more power' or has 'a higher top speed' but ride them for a while in the real world and you know who is king. Maybe they're getting older and want more comfort or they're getting wiser (it comes with age I am told) and realise that riding a race rep on the road at the speeds they feel comfortable will get them plastered on some scenery some day soon.

[KSnake]

I noticed this article lists the rear tire size of the K13S as 180/55, which is different from the specs of a 190/55 originally given for the K13S before the bike was released for sale. Perhaps I missed other posts in this forum regarding this.

[Bernardo]

I noticed this article lists the rear tire size of the K13S as 180/55, which is different from the specs of a 190/55 originally given for the K13S before the bike was released for sale. Perhaps I missed other posts in this forum regarding this.

As far as I know, the K13 never had this tire, was always 190/55-17.

May be is a writer error...

[SHIVA]

that's an error on the part of the editor. K13 uses 190 tire

[CyberAngel]

I have tested only old & new Busa and the K12S
Have to test the new K13S

To my personal opinion the old K12S was not winning old Busa
and even now the Busa has more raw power which no gearing can change
BTW: chain drive bikes can change gearing easily
I changed the dofbones of my old Busa to lift back by 2cmm or less than an inch
which made the steering a tad faster and a lot lighter
Hmmm. I could go for 200mm back tyre...

The BMW has more cargo capasity if you count the pounds
and a lot more electrical power for all those cadgets
I like that

Maybe, if I get the money and the future Mrs Nousiainen approves, I'll get a K14S...2014

[Bernardo]

Hi Angel , welcome to the forum

Both bikes are more fast than the human capacity.....

You right, similar speeds, more comfort for the K13 .

2014 K14S, chain transmision, and 200/50-17 As you ordered!!