BMW'S NEXT INNOVATION WILL BE???

[ARTSBEST]

I keep hearing that BMW is developing a "cross" between the K 1300 S and the 1600 GT line? I was in Munich and stopped by one of BMW's largest European cycle dealerships (a most impressive stainless steel looking shop) and asked the floor manager what was in the pipeline and he just smiled when I mentioned this "cross" cycle possibility. I got the same response from a management person at BMW's Berlin cycle assembly plant. The tour was fun and most educational. I currently own a K 1300 S and can't get enough of this bike. But there's always a better product on the horizon as they say and I'm sure BMW is working on bringing the world just that.

[Cambridge K]

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[r1 Convert]

Isnt the cross K13 - 16 going to be the new K14S due out soon (we think)

For my comment i would like to see BMW add a coffee machine, no i am 100% serious, id love to be able to make a brew while out on the road

[GeeBee]

Separate indicator switches

[Deans BMW]

Something along the lines of a Power Cruser featuring the K16 power train.....I think.

[throttlemeister]

How about standing behind their product for once, and in the process fixing my second clutch that went belly up after just 6000 miles?

[throttlemeister]

Isnt the cross K13 - 16 going to be the new K14S due out soon (we think)

Not likely to ever happen (the 14 that is). BMW likes to reuse and share its engines between models, so if there is going to be a new K-S it will either have the same old 1300 engine it has now, but possible somewhat improved/tuned or it will share the 16/6 of the GT/GTL with different cams to support a more sporty config. I don't see them building a new 1400cc engine, just doesn't make sense for them.

Personally, I think the K13S is the last of its kind. It's a low volume niche market which BMW will kill off just like they did over on the boxer side of their product line. I do see something like the Concept-6 making it to production as a K1600R. But I think the S is dead, unfortunately and the HP version is its swan song.

Just my opinion.

[SHIVA]

But I think the S is dead, unfortunately and the HP version is its swan song.

I heard a rumor that BMW is actually working on a updated K-S. and no, not with the "6," that's a touring platform and too mellow for a K-S. But as a continuation of an Inline 4. So, don't lose hope. I think we'll see K-Ses being made into the foreseeable future.

[mondrage]

I think...
the next step will be a double-clutch automated manual transmission.
Honda already did it, and it's a techno tour-de-force

BMW it's next.

They will push to beat the 200hp with the KS/R platform, all others are... look at the latest Kawa... 195bhp...

[PaulC]

I could be way wide of the mark (wouldn't be the first time) but to me, past history suggests that the HP likely means that this is last year we'll see the K1300 as it stands. It stands to reason that they are offloading the parts in preperation for discontinuation.

The question then really becomes what if anything will replace it? My belief is that they will replace it as it is one of the machines that has generally lowered the age of their target demographic (this is important to them) and in all probability it will follow the usual BMW pattern of evolution rather than revolution.

Given this, I suspect we'll see K1400 based on the current motor; it has the room inside the block to go to that size so it's not an earth shattering development to do so, seems logical enough. Otherwise I expect nothing outrageous, probably the slipper off the K1600 and perhaps some of the more advanced ASC/ABS from the S1000.

Either way, I'll be watching for developments at Intermot quite closely.

[r1 Convert]

The k14S has been mentioned too many times by "accident", I personally don't think it's a case of if but when.

When they released the S1000, The guy doing the presentation continually referred to the current K13S as the 14S.

My dealer let me put a prospective deposit on one 18 months ago after he had made a few calls !!!

[PaulC]

You're thinking like me mate.

If and when it appears, first one to turn up at the Canberra dealership already has my name on it.

[Graemsay]

I expect that there will be a successor to the S, as it's the volume seller in the K series. Over half of all Ks were the S variant in the UK. In fact, it's sold around 1100 units, versus 1200 for the R1200RT update, though the K has had an extra year on the market.

My guess is that it'll have sharper styling (the C600 Sport looks like an evolution of the K1300S's cues), updated versions of the traction control and electronic suspension systems, more power and better economy. BMW is very big on the latter, so expect improvements. I'd expect platform sharing of a bunch of parts with the revised Rs (not the shaft is now on the same side as the Ks), and possibly engine elements from the K1600 or even S1000RR.

I reckon that a lot depends on where the liquid cooled Boxer comes in. If there's a new R1250S with (say) 150 bhp and a 215 kg wet weight (roughly the same as the old R1200S) then it'd be definitely encroaching on the K1300S's territory. The model line-up might be re-jigged accordingly.

BMW have dropped a lot of hints about a cruiser, and the R platform is considered unsuitable because the cylinders get in the way of a feet forward position. So I think that Dean is on the money as usual.

[Acpantera]

Given the photos of the up and coming liquid cooled boxer, I think the exhaust and intake arrangement tell us that the exhaust and intake valves will be on their own cams. This could mean that BMW could introduce techno to the motorcycle word that has been on their autos for years. Things like valvetronic throttle less intake system and direct fuel injection. If BMW is serious about meeting emission and fuel mileage requirements of the future while satisfying customer performance needs, these motorcycling firsts will seem a no brainer years down the road. BMW has been a leader in motorcycle innovation and the next boxer is a great platform to showcase the next part of their evolution.

[mondrage]

Completely agree with Pantera.

Valvetronic/Vanos... will make its way.

What better showcase than the Boxers.
Now pressed for more performance/efficiency/emissions, and freed from air-cooling only.

Those things are already beyond smooth... Imagine smoothness in the whole rpm range.
Awesome!

The vibrations on my K12R are just annoying and deterring to keep pushing.

Silky smooth.

and I insist... Dual clutch automated manual.

[diethornig]

I like to ride a bike with full of stickers so that one that follows me knows I'm using BMW...

[SHIVA]

Diethoring, since you work for Hornig, please don't promote them in your signature. you are welcome to post and promote about Hornig all you want in our VENDORS AREA, but outside of there commercial advertising is not allowed. Thanks.